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Google PMs on Stripe
September 9, 2020
Product manager
it might be good to benchmark with platforms like Stripe the billing functionality they offer. Using Stripe products actually you can build a play store billing service ... their platform is quite flexible and they offer interesting features for developers like early payments based on extra percentage cuts etc
Product director
They are kicking our butt
Product director
But I also think you need a slightly more sophisticated developer team to cobble together a billing platform even with stripe
Product director
Stripe just hired the 2 pms that built the play billing system
Product director
So we beat them on fops and countries
Product director
They beat us on primitives
Product director
Our main value though is not in The primitives it is that we have a whole bunch of users with fops ready to spend which they don't offer because they are infra
Product manager
I did the feasibility of a billing service based on stripe on my previous life and it looked quite ok to be honest :-) they are indeed infra, just mentioning as an inspiration channel, since they offer it as a product they worked a lot on creating flexibility and additional features which might be inspiration for us as well.
Product director
Yeah
Product director
In general it is embarrassing that Google did not create stripe ourselves
Product director
We were too busy fighting about future requests on the Google payments platform for internal customers to worry about external customers
[This document is from In re: Google Play Store Antitrust Litigation (2023).]
Sundar Pichai messages Google exec
October 12, 2021
Sundar Pichai
Need the link for my leaders circle tomorrow
Sundar Pichai
also can we change the setting of this group to history off
Sundar Pichai
thanks
[This document is from In re: Google Play Store Antitrust Litigation (2023).]
Further reading: DOJ alleges Google destroyed chat messages that it was required to save during antitrust investigation (February 23, 2023)
Eric Schmidt: âI don't want to create a paper trailâ
From: Shona Brown
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 7:58 PM
To: Executive Management Group
Cc: Judy Gilbert; Stacy Sullivan; Arnnon Geshuri
Subject: Protocol for "Do Not Cold Call" and "Sensitive" Companies ---please comment to Arnnon ASAP if you have any changes
[ OMID -- check with Arnnon before you go "live" with this] [JOAN - please confirm with Arnnon that you are comfortable with this final wording]
Special Protocol for "Do Not Cold Call" and "Sensitive" Companies
The following companies are part of the "Do Not Cold Call" list:
Genentech
Intel
Apple
Paypal
Comcast
For each of these "Do Not Cold Call" companies the following protocol applies:
We do not directly cold call into these companies
We will accept internal or external references that indicate that an individual is "looking"
And, of course, we will also accept direct solicitation from a candidate (this will most likely come into play when an individual's peer has recently joined us)
Executive Recruiting: Staffing will inform EMG of any candidate for a Director level or above role at Google who we have engaged and who is starting the interview process at Google
Executive Recruiting: If we decide to extend an offer to a Director/above candidate, Staffing will ask EMG to designate a senior exec to place a courtesy call into the "Do Not Cold Call" company to let them know we have made an offer
Executive Recruiting: By exception, when EMG deems necessary, a designated senior exec will call into the "Do Not Cold Call" company to indicate we will be making an offer.
From: Eric Schmidt
Date: Oct 4, 2005 9:40 PM
This looks very good Eric
On 10/5/05, Omid Kordestani wrote:
Great. Can I edit and forward the core policy to ebay/PP (only their respevtive org's listed of course)?
Omid
From: Shona Brown
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 4:06 PM
I am fine with this.
Eric -- any concerns with Omid sharing with Ebay/PP the rules as they pertain to them?
slb
On 10/5/05, Eric Schmidt wrote:
I would prefer that Omid do it verbally since I don't want to create a paper trail over which we can be sued later? Not sure about this.. thanks Eric
From: Shona Brown
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 1:44 AM
makes sense to do orally. i agree.
[This document is from In re: High-Tech Employee Antitrust Litigation (2011).]
Further reading: Bigger Settlement Said to Be Reached in Silicon Valley Antitrust Case (January 14, 2015): â[T]he Justice Department revealed in 2010 that several leading companies had conspired against their own employees ⊠The companies were accused of making secret deals not to hire each otherâs engineersâ
Previously: Sergey Brin: "Irate call from Steve Jobs" (February 13, 2005)
Previously: Eric Schmidt: "Phone call from Meg Whitman" (September 7, 2005)
Previously: Steve Jobs emails Eric Schmidt (March 7, 2007)
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